Sunday, February 4, 2007, 07:06 PM
- Interviews
Did you have a musical family?
Both my parents are still singing (in the church choir) My dad’s a pretty proficient piano player and a pretty good guitar player as well.
What are the differences between your albums?
Some things are different but we always try to challenge ourselves and do new things. I hope that each of our records sounds new like something we’ve never done before but also like us.
Who designed the new cover? I love it.
Josh. He designs a lot of t shirts and stuff – he’s a great artist. Watercolours and drawings.
How was touring with Keane? Is that the largest band you’ve toured with?
Now they’re really big, but that tour wasn’t so crazy. We were still playing Berbati’s in Portland – Irving Plaza in NY. It’s not like it was Madison Square Garden. We’ve gone on mini tours opening for bands at that level. In terms of world domination I guess they’re bigger than any band . . .
That was the first tour I had heard about you guys.
It was a great tour to for us to have done because I think a lot of people saw us – it’s a different demographic entirely than we’re used to playing. It was not necessarily all the hipster kids – it was more different kinds of people. It’s cool, I like playing in front of different kinds of people not just straight up rock & roll fans – although I love obviously playing for those people too. They [Keane] have a different audience and it’s working out well for them.
What do you like about playing live music?
I like playing music, period. There’s that (we laugh). You’d be surprised being in a band. You practice a lot. You drive a lot. And you do a lot of peripheral stuff. But playing – the sound check you just saw – usually it’s not nearly that long, then you play the show is not even that long. Sound check is usually about an hour, if you’re lucky and the show is 45 minutes. So in a day of tour we drive like seven hours, we talk on the phone and do business and emails for many other hours and then you play music for an hour and 45 minutes if you’re lucky. By that break down we’re so happy to be playing , which is really what we’re supposed to be doing . . . so I like that and I love being in a room with a crowd and getting a vibe going in a room. Playing and singing, there’s nothing like it – or people wouldn’t starve to death and drive around in vans and go crazy. I do think it’s the hardest thing – it’s one of the hardest things people can do. People think, you’re in a rock band cause you can’t get a real job. But I think this is so much harder than any other real job – and I’ve had some hard jobs.
What other kind of jobs have you had?
I’ve worked in kitchens – really hard. I’ve worked as a teacher, which is maybe the only thing I would put next to this as as hard. I’ve been a landscaper . . . I gravitate towards these things for some reason.
Teaching and this work – I can see how you’d compare it.
It’s like a 24 hour – you have to be all there all the time or you can’t do it. You make no money. Teachers really don’t make any money. The joke is we don’t make any money – rock people- cause obviously some rock people make more money than God. No matter how good a teacher you are you’re not going to make any money. But you get rewards that most people don’t even know about (as a teacher).
What did you teach?
Music. A school in Jersey city – a Catholic school – two Catholic schools actually. The other teachers were Haitian nuns.
Were the kids well-behaved?
No, they were horribly behaved, but they were wonderful.
Music was probably one of their favorite subjects.
They liked me. But it was hard – I mean forty kids in a class in an inner city school.
I don’t believe I’ve ever said anything about that before in an interview – that’s an exclusive. In professions like acting, music and teaching you have to engage people.Except in teaching it’s for them and everything else is for you. Although there’s a gray area there too. Teachers, especially at the college level where they like to hear themselves talk, they like to be adored, they like to inspire awe and girls to have crushes on them and stuff. I am sure you could find a lot of teachers who have weird motivations - I claim to not be one of them.
You studied at Oberlin – is that where you got your music degree?
I don’t have a music degree. I was completely unqualified for my teaching job. For this type of job I feel qualified – for my teaching job, at least on paper anyway, I was completely unqualified. They didn’t have a music teacher at all at the school.
How was working with Haitian nuns?
They’re great - they were crazy. Wanna take about making no money, they really made no money. Nuns make no money.
Were they fun?
They were great.
I guess I wouldn’t go into the nunnery to make money.
I would advise against it.
What happened to the column on French Kicks’ site, What Would French Kicks Do?
It’s gone.
Did you get tired of it?
What Did French Kicks Do? We just got lazy. For a while we were just lazy – we’d be in the car and somebody would be like, we really should do some of those. We should of done a lot more of them, but it’s the kind of thing that’s really fun for a while and then as soon as it starts to feel like a chore we’ll quickly be like, no sorry. In theory anyway there will be some enticing new content on there [the French Kicks’ web site]. It was fun to do that. I think our new idea is to have a gallery – a page where people send their art submissions in the and we critique the art submissions where we do a psychological evaluation based on the art.
I was afraid you were going to critique the art.
We’re going to do that, too. It’s like a critique of the art that gets into a more psychological profile. Whether we actually do it or not I can’t tell you. It’s in the works.
You’ve been touring continually since 2001.
Well not exactly. We’ve had sort of seasons of heavy touring. This is the first tour we’ve done in a really long time – a year.
Do you have a driver?
No, we drive. It’s something to do. It’s different when you’re driving – it’s a little better – you have to pay attention.
You’re not just staring out the window.
You kid yourself into thinking that you’re doing something worthwhile. Although sitting and staring out the window is great, too. I have no problem with that. I don’t mind it at all. It’s just that after a while, living on top of each other . . .
Who’s the first one to start picking a fight?
I pick fights all of the time. No, we’re a bunch of perfect gentlemen. We are, it’s true. A very gentlemanly band. Very nice to eachother.
No shut ups or we’re going to leave you in Fargo?
No. I mean you this about bands, I mean people get into real fights on tours all the time. Real bad fights, but we’ve been pretty good.
You played drums in the band earlier on – why stop?
Just for live purposes, it was a little limiting. We couldn’t play fast songs – we could do maybe one if we were lucky because I would be so out of breath.
They’d find you collapsed –
I used to literally see spots – almost be about to pass out after every show. I don’t have a problem with that necessarily – just I couldn’t do more than one fast song per show. I could only do so much intricate stuff. And also now I play keyboards here and there. It just basically opens up opportunities to do other stuff.
You don’t like to refer to influences – you think it’s misleading?
I just don’t like to mention them. There’s so many . . . the way we’re influenced by them is so different – it’s like little details as opposed to broader things. [He’s the same on films and literature, too] I think everything you see or read will listen to you in some way.
I’m intrigued by the title of the one about-
England? It’s the only one –
Do you get a lot of questions about it?
I’m psychic.
I know.
It’s about a time we were over there at the end of a long tour. We were out for five weeks in the States and then immediately went over there and it was sort of a kick some one when they’re down scenario. We were so exhausted and everything was fucked up. [The song] is obviously a tongue in cheek thing. It’s something that’s fun to complain about – we’re champion complainers.
How did you get involved with Poptones?
We did one record. Alan McGee – there’s this party that he puts on, it’s mostly in London with Radio 4. He was doing it in NY when the whole New York thing was happening, seeing what would stick. What stuck was the Hives.
Do you think that you are now able to get out of being labeled a New York band?
I hope so. I mean, here we are talking about it. But I hope so.
None of them sounded much like each other.
They never did.
You have a new guitar player?
For about two months. He’s great – he’s an old friend, a D.C. guy.
What’s D.C. like?
It’s much more fun as a native than as a visitor. It’s a great to be fifteen or sixteen years old – I think that’s what it’s best for. It’s sort of halfway been a small town and a big town, in a great way for teenagers. There’s a really good music scene, especially when we were in high school. But then you can also sit outside in the park and get drunk, the kind of things you can do in smaller towns. It’s a great place to grow up.
You moved to NY for more opportunities?
I think for the same reasons most people move to NY. There’s more going on.
What kind of music did you play in your teenage years?
It was pretty terrible, high school music band music. We did a lot different stuff.
Do you get to get out see things while on tour?
Every once in a while we have a day off and can go walk around. Usually it’s just drive in for sound check, do the show. In our naiive early days we used to book our own tours and book all these days off everywhere to see the sights – it ends up being sort of depressing. If you don’t - first of all if you don’t have any money –but second of all if you don’t have a home base in a foreign town it just gets depressing to be there really quick. You don’t have anything to do. If you have a friend there, anything, where you can feel a little more at home then it’s fine. We learned very quickly that it’s better not to have too much time off.
Who are some of the bands you’d like to tour with?
It’s always fun to go on tour with the Walkmen, we grew up together. It’s like touring with your old gang from high school. Dios, the Joggers – a Portland band who I think are really great.
Are there any kinds of music you can’t stand?
Like whole types of music? No, I don’t think so. I think you can find good examples of pretty much anything. There’s got to be something redeeming about everything, or it wouldn’t be anything. Somebody had to like it. Somebody in that category had to like it, for a good reason, or it wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. It’s like populist theory.
French Kicks is a handsome band and I see that mentioned in every arcticle. Does that weird you out?
No. If you think about that sort of thing you’re doomed, so I try not to think about it. What we’re doing is try to be good at music. That’s the most important thing to us. That people are listening and like the songs. We work hard at it. I like to be listened to a lot more than looked at. In fact I hate being looked at, I do. I’m not a natural hey look at me kind of guy. But I love to play, I love to be on stage so I can play.
[Though I do point out it’s better to be thought attractive than unattractive] It’s too bad.
I think there’s been times, not so long ago, where [appearance] wasn’t so much a parameter by which people were judged so much. In the 70s I don’t think you had to be so attractive necessarily. Everybody has to be a pop star now, rockers have to be pop stars. Any kind of music has to be a pop record. It’s so boring. It used to be you could look shit but if it [the music] sounded good people would listen to it. People were paid attention to for the right reasons. Even beyond looking like shit because that’s your thing but because you just don’t care. Maybe I’m kidding myself. I like to think that that’s possible again. Not having looks be a criteria for being recorded in the first place.
Do you have to force yourself to write?
I think there have been times where we’ve done that, where we’ve said we’re going to write now. Sometimes good things happen. But mostly – the beginning of song has to be something that just happens very naturally and relaxed way for fun just so you want to entertain yourself. Feel it. It will sound like you felt like it, which is the best thing. It’s a mind game, for us anyway. You take the good things that happen by accident and then you make them into things that are listenable. And you have to be around the instruments so things can happen in the first place. Sometimes that will take a little bit of discipline.
It’s sort of a balancing act.